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What does "C & R" mean?

C & R stands for Curio and Relic, which is a classification of articles and firearms as specified by BATF. Some states (like MI) require that machine gun owners also be federal C&R License holders, but anyone can buy a C&R gun. Also, if you have a C&R license and purchase a C&R gun it may be shipped directly to you once the transfer is approved, rather than to a Class 3 Dealer in your state before tranfer to you.

How does this purchase procedure work?
Buy the item, send a check for your purchase, along with the name of the Class 3 Dealer you will be using to complete the transfer in your state.

Your dealer will send us the proper paperwork for this first transfer, we prepare and fax the Form 3 transfer to BATF immediately, and then once the transfer clears BATF (less than 2 weeks) we ship the gun to your dealer.

Your in-state dealer then prepares Form 4 paperwork, which you will sign and also have signed by the Chief Law Enforcement Officer in your locale (Sheriff, Chief of Police, State Police Chief, etc...only need for one to sign).

You return the completed Form 4's to the in-state dealer, along with (2) passport size photos, (2) fingerprint cards, (1) citizenship authorization, and a transfer tax check made payable to Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms for the one time per item transfer tax. A $200.00 transfer tax applies to Short BBL Shotguns, Short BBL Rifles, Machine Guns and Suppressors; a $5.00 transfer tax applies to items classified as Any Other Weapons - "AOW".

This paperwork is mailed to BATF and when this transfer clears you go pick up your gun.

We email/contact our customers each step of the way, so you will know when your gun arrives in state and the next transfer, from your dealer to you, can begin.


How do I buy a suppressor/short bbl shotgun/short bbl rifle/aow/destructive device?
Same procedure as a machine gun.

Click here for more info on the process

What are Presamples and Postsamples are why are they cheaper than the other guns?
Both presample and postsample guns are defined by the Gun Control Act/McClure-Volkner Act. Firearms designated "presample" may only be sold to other Class 3 gun dealers, and postsamples may be sold to law enforcement agencies or the military ONLY! . All the guns on our "autoweapons" page are transferable, which makes them the more desirable guns for most of the population. This is why transferable guns are more expensive.


What is a Class 3 License?
A Class 3 Federal Firearms License is required for dealing, manufacturing, and importing firearms for the express purpose of revenue generation - not collecting. It is a felony to obtain a Class 3 License for the purpose of enhancing your collection.


Do I need a license to buy a machine gun?
No, you don't need a federal firearms license. If you are permitted by law to own a handgun and your state allows the transfer of machine guns, you can buy one (unless you are in a state that requires a C&R License for machine gun ownership.


Where do I get a permit for a machine gun?
You don' t need a permit, either. You do need to complete an "Application For Tax Paid Transfer and Registration of Firearm", also known as a Form 4, and this must be signed by the Chief Law Enforcement Officer in your locale. You also need to submit, in duplicate, a complete set of fingerprints and palm prints and passport-size photos.


What is the charge for this transfer?
When your application to Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms is submitted there is a $200 transfer tax per item to be paid for machine guns, short bbl shotguns, short bbl rifles and silencers and a $5.00 transfer tax for AOW.


How do I make a semi auto gun into a machine gun?
You don't, unless you want to spend the next 20 years in your lovcal or out of sate PRISON. No new machine guns can be made, as per the 1986 ban. We have to keep trading the ones already out there.

This is going to not end well

They tried it and a billion dollars later failed....!

Yesterday, Canada's House of Commons passed third reading of legislation which would abolish the Canadian Firearms Registry. The bill now goes to Canada's Senate for passage before being signed into law by the Governor General.

The Canadian Firearms Registry came into being by the Liberal government of Jean Chretien back in 1995. It has long been plagued by cost overruns and there is little evidence to suggest it actually reduces gun crime. The Conservative government of Stephen Harper has wanted to abolish the agency since coming to office in 2006. However, the Tories were in a minority government situation and the opposition parties wouldn't have it. But after the Tories won their elusive majority in the House of Commons last May, it was only a matter of time before the registry was going to be scrapped.
Interestingly, two members of the socialist New Democratic Party (NDP) voted with the Tories yesterday. The two NDP MPs in question, Bruce Hyer and John Rafferty, represent constituencies in my hometown of Thunder Bay, Ontario. Both Hyer and Rafferty have long supported abolishing the registry which is unpopular in rural areas and especially amongst hunters. Despite their long standing opposition, when Hyer and Rafferty voted in favor of the bill on second reading, interim NDP leader Nycole Turmel stripped Hyer and Rafferty of the critic portfolios and committee assignments as well as prohibited them from participating in Question Period or making public statements. Turmel has warned that more sanctions will be brought about against Hyer and Rafferty. It is worth noting that the NDP will select a new leader next month. If that new leader insists on disciplining Hyer and Rafferty for voting in the interests of their constituents then the NDP can kiss Northern Ontario goodbye in the 2015 election.
It's interesting how urban-rural schism can split the Left when it comes to gun politics in Canada. On a personal note, when I was a parliamentary intern for former NDP MP Nelson Riis back in the fall of 1994, I had the opportunity to sit in on a few NDP caucus meetings. I was there when the Liberals introduced the firearms registry legislation and back then nearly every member of the NDP caucus opposed the bill as they represented constituencies in Western Canada (mostly in Saskatchewan) that were either predominantly or partially rural. The only NDP MP who supported the registry at the time was Svend Robinson who represented a constituency in a suburban Vancouver.

Well, today there's are far more urban composition to the NDP Caucus especially from Montreal where there is greater support for the registry. There are also no NDP MPs from Saskatchewan, the cradle of Canadian social democracy. But it also seems there is less tolerance for those with dissenting views which is curious because those dissenting views were once the prevailing views within the NDP Caucus not so long ago.

Taken from http://spectator.org/blog/2012/02/16...rearms-registr

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We are heading to the shot show for 2012